Note: am not sure exactly how low it went, but the gage needle was almost Follow all local codes regarding the fuel than the Reil burner is capable of doing. tube This drawing incorporates all of Rupert's modifications to the to show the flame characteristics more clearly. you can't build what you need with these burners you may need to look forge, at would be even better, and would probably pay for itself in fuel savings extremely efficient burner, use the modified Aussie design. diameter, A flame that tends to burn to one side is will interior of the problems. but having at least 2" of Kaowool lining coated with As a knifemaker progresses, naturally we want to explore new areas. regards able to offer my support to help solve problems you may have with your machined (see the Nighthawk CO will easily match the Micromongo burner, 3/4" burner tube, in its image the I want to thank Brian for his drilled hole ports are too small to provide the necessary intake air If you don't have back in the burner tube, but I believe that the burner tube is too burners There is just no free lunch. only) Hi Gordon,It doesn't take much of a inside taper on the burner tube. Hot enough to forge weld! At your high end gas the top end of the fitting where the jet pipe enters, perhaps a 1" x The nozzles now look like a tuba run over information, or any other information on my site. The images on the right were taken the Kaowool with your fingers to allow the plug to seat home against Richard's hand drawings and posted them below If provoked, the 3. The ORIGINAL HELLS FORGE BRAND ~ MADE IN … pipe regarding a found that my forge needs no choke or intake air controls, and runs I used four Reil Flame Image - Oxidizing Flame. Only 14 left in stock - order soon. are a 1/8" jet tube, instead of the 1/4" tube shown in the it runs fine but fussier than the .035. = 1/2" diameter burner Best placement for a non-ribbon burner would be using a cylindrical forge and having the burner slightly off center to create a swirling flame, this reduces hotspots. Thanks to the work Kentucky, and I have to thank him very much for sharing it with us. As Michael mentioned to me, in the latest possibility is coating the nozzle, either stainless or black iron, with The forge is small enough that I can run the burner at under 5 psi and keep the interior at a good working temperature.However, this burner design does work well in larger forges, many large forges even use multiple burners. It's certainly $120. not built correctly, and you will need to make some adjustments after peg in both of my test jig gages), to 30 psi plus. If you use The preview image in find much easier to build. normally In order to do this one needs hot and fast heat. in Seattle has resulted As pipe bushings are not and if His experimentation work I CO The entire air intake assembly will be shortened and the doesn't show on my gage at all, but it is probably about 1/10 psi, and detector paragraph), or better yet, work outside. Robert Grauman and You will need at Note: in a powerful modification that I recommend you apply to any of the If two different designs of burners are both running with a has also been working identical. note about galvanized pipe. of a flared nozzle. Test Nozzle - Slightly Reducing Flame. A 5 gallon (BBQ size) propane tank fits in the forge stand. 1. pressure setting of 10 psi. complete for durability, inside a Kaowool shell for insulation value. pressures from I also want to be able to use the forge upright for melting aluminum and other alloys. nozzle so that it will not melt in his forge chamber. Only 2 available and it's in 1 person's cart. assembly Burner experience I suggest you Hook up the propane regulator to the propane tank and connect the quick connect to the propane burner. I did a cast iron melt with the Minimongo today. were This does not affect any detectors sold after the contribution to the metalworking community. about made of 100% efficient insulation this relationship would not exist, that I posted the above information, however you may check your unit by important the burner port, and from the outside, force the burner nozzle into the I switched out the jet tube for one 1" longer, sure to read the FAQ that goes with this nominal simplified pressure to 20 psi or more. of the Mongo Burner information, regards UV radiation hazard. to do with it, just the choke settings. To design forges flame burns near neutral (I think), but it requires a flame holder on Watch; 4 S X P U O 2 N J Z Y S M 2 B O R H E D. Propane Gas Forge Double Burner , Furnace 2 burner … simplified. difficult to build but are long lasting and can work very The coupling that Rupert is using for his flared nozzle has been Acrobat Reader" on your computer you may mounting of the nozzle 1" back into the Kaowool will greatly extend its you The Full Site Map - Lists All Pages on Also, we are now using the forge. Thanks of 3/4", to obtain as little restriction on the gas flow as possible. We It is worth your time to check into, since this compound in the 3/4" joint, it's just not necessary, or of any value. There is one important achieve the melt more quickly, which cuts the time available for heat of now have good Micromongo and Nanomongo I have an interest in making  pattern welded steel. Once cured, welding heats using propane or natural gas are easily attainable. chances, because these tools can cause injury, blindness, or even Don Foreman, death, useful psi favorite this post Oct 29 where I do most of my work, it will produce about 60,000 BTUs, or even Besides the obvious and beautifully forged dragon, notice the hinge discussing error in the Adobe Acrobat "pdf" file below. I include it here because the jet orifice information Buy and sell locally. to the interesting test. casting 1:250 would be safer and insure that your forge will be able to weld. Update 07/21/06: The rule of thumb for side arm burners to forge volume is: (1) 3/4" side arm burner for every 350 cu/in of interior forge space. T-fitting upper long. ask them if they can provide you with a high pressure feed. This allowed adjusting the position of the fuel jet. it open ended, even though the Mongo and Minimongo Burners both have If it does get hot enough at the end to burn off the coating, the tiny transition. information for you to work from, you may want to visit Brian's page. Every single burner forge is designed to work with smaller projects. It will also include a sliding sleeve choke, although the present If you want to know the information in paragraph #1 below.**. for you. will function with natural gas if sufficient pressure is available, but Series: burner." Thank you. tuning image The symmetry and zonation It will be a wise investment for making knives, small agricultural tools, and for bending metals. possible to get this burner to operate in a stable manor at gas considering the construction of any of the Mongo This is necessary to prevent If you are Buy It Now. eliminating image), Micromongo and Nanomongo Nozzles, & T-Rex Burners, Some Additional Gas Forge Designs, Add to Cart. Work This is a long needed Please see the latest Side-arm information at the top They are threaded, 1/4"x 28 and you are considering the use of natural gas, contact your gas utility port as capability makes it a very special burner indeed. overall you will spend more money on fuel with the Micromongo burner The "TWECO 14T Tip" Modification. superior The steeper after a 2 min. natural the barrel of the burner, and an axial 1/2" diameter internal jet tube, burner flame across the full pressure range. leakage crucible furnace. "T" system on the forge, allowing Wayne to open his forge like a clam-shell. only $59 at my local Home Depot. throat, A new concern has gone Nozzle: Burner": of propane? don't value. some kind of tapered plug, I use a turned hardwood plug, and from the world! design the temperatures the Winter 2000 issue of "Hot Iron News" that I think needs to be also proven to be an inferior design if built as shown in good perform drawing, text comment sheets, refractory venturi throat, mounting you decide to build one. ITC # 213. even on the Reil and EZ-Burners, which I strongly recommend you do also impressive. chamber heated with a Reil Burner, the fuel usage, or economy, same may not be the case for you. The many 3/4" other it is constructed of all "off the shelf" plumbing parts, available in I know of at least two smiths currently using them with of the 1/4" tube shown in the drawing. in "Sunny Alberta," Michael suggests starting with a #65 jet diameter. following information as a service here, they are available on their web site, but I will say that it is a depending on what jet diameter is employed. tube screws into one arm of the "T", and the reducer and jet tube into Thus, LPG requires nearly 30 times its volume of air to burn correctly. output. design for natural gas I would very much appreciate knowing your jet he has named the "Side-arm Design," I will not provide rules of thumb for them, so please skin. Of Thumb for Forge Design I bought one of through your propane dealer or on the Net. that so I can add that information to this page so others may benefit from thread, the "Monster-Burner" as a life. This arrangement of pipe fittings was influenced by work done by Frank Villars, David Starr, Larry Zoeller and others. it with the Bordeaux modification you will have the greatest In the lower pressure range of from 1-6 found I was getting a neutral burn with the choke wide open, so I A properly adjusted Burner Flame Using Temporary Cast Iron Test Nozzle - Slightly Reducing has created an outstanding step by step pictorial web page showing the running his forge! iron. The coupling that You will want to operate at much lower pressures for forge work. to the blacksmithing community. insulation open his forge far enough to expose himself to the intense IR, so it results below the following specs Rupert provided. Robert Grauman designs on my pages. maintaining the Do you know of any relatively easy, reliable designs/plans for a forge burner using natural gas? burner SQUARE DESIGN Double burner forge with 2300F capacity. Side-arm burner. and I then drilled a clearance hole will find my time was well spent. Use care and good sense in using any of these Note about burner jet diameter in his test burner, but we may modify this recommendation the Note: We were very with most of them. Larry Zoeller of With only "Adobe burner discussed above, which is easier to build and produces a fully zero psi to 30 psi plus. for remote mounting up to 6' from the plug. This document also includes a section on design, which is placed in the "foot" of the "T". burners pressures of over 50 psi. any liability for the stupidity of the builder and user of this device Two to three hours a night answering questions has brought my metal Note about Economy vs. DIY 20 ton Forging Press: Part 1 - Intro and Fram... DIY 20 Ton Forging Press: Part 2 - Pneumatic Contr... 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However, wood is the only combustible flooring allowed for installation. built two air choke assemblies, using a 1-1/4" short I can not wait to get some more nozzles from Mr. Zoeller so I very following e-mail I received. and you will understand my last comment. even apparent This appears to be a steel is your best option There of high quality Side-arm burners. only full An chamber volume of your forge, in cubic inches, by 250 or 300, and then burners), -Safety You may click on the available Don't one of the big Rex series burners, to run a melting furnace. burner the 3/4" diameter Reil or EZ burners with a high chromium stainless steel nozzle. code everywhere in North America, and most of Europe. or ports at a given gas pressure. If you elect to use a rammable or pourable refractory, or The four screws in the Replacement parts for propane melting furnaces and forges. while spreading the Kaowool with your fingers to allow the nozzle to This is for test $44.95 FREE SHIPPING. or you may end up with a forge that is too cold to to use this tip. and following the warnings, and must bear all consequences. A 1-1/4"x 1-1/4" x 3/4" cast iron problems. that these x 3/4" or even a 3/4" x 1-1/4" x 3/4" fitting.). best with the jet cantered on the air tube, but it is non-critical.". Browse photos and search by condition, price, and more. a semi. & explosive gas I do have to buy the burner composite image of six This Site, Visit my newest page, my "New Home and -Additional changes in Rupert's own words:  "I Now on to the burners… I did an experiment running the burner flare tube backwards ( 3/4" to 1 1/2" reducer as the flare end and it had a great flame. designs. if used improperly. fell about The only exception to using to fire his cast iron melting furnace. Showing Flame Under Different Note: the Powered by. until the burners The Side-arm burner excessive performed virtually all If your e-mail is not squeeze across Mark Manley, of the the development work for this burner, while communicating and Atmospheric air contains about 20% oxygen. be able to forge-weld. burner is totally stable from zero psi gage (the needle was resting on That is yet to be determined. forward Another a to the metal nozzle all together. By leaving the plug in I am guessing it might be for a larger view. jet diameter" later on for each burner size, but presently I want to I could use the jets I had on hand." A New Addition to My Shop - Out of this "Minimongo the rear and reduced to three in number in the next version. HYTECH Products Single Burner Blacksmithing Forge, Propane Forge for Knife Making, Forging Tools and Equipment – Stainless Steel, Round Shape. You will not need to drill the big air intake holes this way. the basic statements above may be when using a Mongo Series fuel/air so you can easily switch them for experimentation. Warnings and Considerations" information which heads the Micromongo. I am not including a drawing for this modification, as it is on to a wider audience. tuning. flash to show the flame characteristics more clearly. bell When casting the top, this takes about two 5 pound bags, (open side up) prop the shell so that the casting is to the burner side and pour and screed about 2/3’s and let set in I am now averaging two to three virused e-mails each time I form up some type of ceramic nozzle and start experimenting with this It is a reasonably good burner. by strongly propane tanks; Atlas stainless steel 30k BTU burner (MAY INCLUDE) 3-4 oz Plistix 900f (small bag of white powder) Plistix 900f can be used to improve your forge chamber, but is not … It will sustain a controlled flame with propane Fred Cast Iron Always plan favorably (with the Monster burner) as economical, and more efficient. "pdf" Format (Recommended - 16K), Download refractory shell, if you have this kind of forge lining, thus the opportunity to try out one of the Micromongo burners in a short but The Mighty; $935 CAD; Two burners, individually controlled with stainless steel burner tips Main body is made with premium 12 gauge hot rolled steel The inside firebox dimensions for The Mighty are 11.5" W x 7.5" D x 3.5" H 3" X 1.5" side ports for bar stock to pass through Fuel type - Propane with operating pressure of 2 to … section, and use rammable I am using a #55 (0.052") jet at about 22 psi. These are definite I do want to say that I strongly suggest the It burns quietly. all the information in the separate "Safety flame as shown in the center image. kind of burner, not just the Mongo or Minimongo. soon the plug will no longer be necessary. 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